According to the outside world and media, it is a form or sect of Islam that goes back to Sheikh Mohamed bin Abdulawahab. But to Saudis, especially the central region it is a sub-tribe of the Tameem tribe which coincidentally Sheikh Mohamed and I both belong to.
To set the record straight, no Saudi calls himself Wahbi unless they belong to the sub-tribe I mentioned above. To us Sheikh Mohamed was just another famous big sheikh who also happened to be into politics. He did not start a new Islamic sect. What he did do was educate people in the central region. The central region is practically an out of the way desert. Sheikh Mohamed was born here in Al Uyyanah, not far from Riyadh. He travelled to Makkah, Medina and Iraq to study Islam and then he came back and taught his people. At that time, people here were illiterate, superstitious and many had forgotten or never learned the basics of Islam. There are even stories about paganism and idol worshipping. So he came back to teach people. And he also made a pact with an ancestor of Al Saud, that he would take care of the religion and Al Saud would take care of bringing unity and government to our people.
Sheikh Mohamed, contrary to popular western belief, was not an ultra conservative hell bent against women and human rights. He barely delved into these issues. He had religiously bigger issues to take care of with wiping out paganism and the worship of saints and reeducating people in how to pray! He was also busy stifling the spread of Shiaism. His main focus was to resume the monotheism condition of Islam. He did such a great job that by the time he was through, the region had all the basics of Sunni Islam down. So much that for the next two centuries, many many so-called sheikhs sadly had nothing better to do but twiddle their thumbs and create petty fatwas. For example, one that I came across written in the late eighties, early nineties that women should be discouraged from watching soccer matches on TV because the excitement of seeing men in shorts running around is too much for her fragile emotional health. That was a FATWA!
I digress, back to the term Wahabi. This is definitely an outsider’s term. And to those who the term refers to, it is meaningless. It isn’t even derogatory. It has no meaning outside of lineage and tribal names. There is no Islamic sect called Wahabi and Sheikh Mohamed bin Abdulawahab did not create a new Islamic perspective. He was just a famous and notable figure in Saudi Arabian history.
So what Islamic sect does the central region and the government follow? It is Sunni and we strictly follow Sheikh Ahmed bin Hanbil and Ibn Taiymiah, both of whom came long before Mohamed bin Abdulwahab. Religiously speaking we call our selves Hanabillah. The next time you hear someone say “those crazy Wahabis” please correct them and say “they’re actually crazy Hanabillahs”.
47 Comments
August 28, 2008 at 9:34 pm
Nice post.
It annoys me when I hear this term also as I have read Ibn Abdul Wahhab’s ‘Kitab at-Tawhid’ and of course there is nothing crazy or extreme in there, just simple deductions based on Qur’an and sunnah and of course he did a huge amount to bring this region away from the Jahil practices that were prevalent at that time. Actually I live a couple of minutes from Old Dir’iyyah which is where he established a kind of dawa centre in partnership with King Sa’ud.
August 29, 2008 at 12:32 am
Thanks. It is funny how the media’s superficial knowledge can sometimes snowball into “facts”.
September 1, 2008 at 6:45 pm
Thanks for this insightful post; I will definitely be cautious in the future not to refer to Wahhabism as a way of describing Saudi religious beliefs.
September 2, 2008 at 1:21 pm
I really liked the humor in the post. I lived in saudi for 5 yrs, only recently moved to Europe, and all along I also thought part of saudi is wahabi, but I also knew it followed Hanbali madhab.
Thanks for the interesting explanation !!!
September 4, 2008 at 2:03 am
That was nice to read. It was indeed the “genetically” bit that had me confused.
Being used to hearing the term Wahabi as applied to “followers of Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdul Wahab” by outsiders, I just didn’t ‘get it’
. But thank you for the explanation. So you’re Sheikh Mohammed’s tribe-mate 
!
(And, oh, Saudis are not the only people who get called ‘Wahhabi’. In the Sub-continent, you can find people using the term ‘Wahhabi’ for anyone who appears ‘rigid’ or ’strict’ in their beliefs (according to the observer) – some ‘Barelvis’ use the term for ‘Salafis’, ‘Tablighis’ and ‘Deobandis’ – very odd and amusing if you know that the ‘Salafis’ lump all ‘Barelvis’, Tablighis and Deobandis together as ‘innovators’ of the highest order.)
September 7, 2008 at 2:58 am
I have never heard either term used, but I feel pleased to be set straight anyway! Thank you for your information and for your blog. I really like it.
September 18, 2008 at 9:59 am
Sheikh Muhammed Ibn Abdul-Wahhab (rahimahullah) was a mujaddid (renewer/reviver of the Deen) at his time. Like SaudiWoman mentioned he aided the eradication of acts of shirk (polytheism) in the region (may Allah reward him)…
Thank you Saudi Woman for writing this post.
-Scribbler
December 10, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Very good and informative post, SaudiWoman. I think I’ll just save the link of this post and give it to anyone who confuses the term.
I remember…. during my first few weeks in the states, years and years ago… I met an Egyptian guy at the local mosque, and i introduced myself as Nader from Saudi Arabia. He asked me “Are you a wahabi”? Back then, I didn’t know what that meant, so I said I don’t know. He said.. ohh.. you’re from Saudi Arabia, you must be one. I said ok, if you say so. So I turn my back to him and he goes and asks another guy about me, while I still could hear everything. The guy told the Egyptian man my full name, and then the Egyptian guy comes to me running and saying “you are a wahabi!” دا انتا وهابي!!, because I happen to belong to the same tribe as Sheikh Muhammad bin Abdulwahab!
January 6, 2009 at 5:50 pm
من میخواهم از اعتقادات شما آگاه شوم
January 9, 2009 at 12:24 pm
People call saudis as WAHABI because they follow Abdul wahab najdi’s teachings. Every body knows that all saudis are not from Abdul wahab najdi’s TRIBE.
January 9, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Read the book, it is a very interesting book about how a british spy used Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab an-Najdi to form the deviated sect of Wahabi aka Salafi. It shows us the British plan to destroy Islam in 21 specific ways. This is a MUST READ for every muslim. It also goes into detail on how they created other deviated sects mostly in India.
You can read it for free here: http://www.hakikatkitabevi.com/downl…BritishSpy.pdf
November 28, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Brother Asalamulaikum
The book you reffered here is a nice story which has nothing to do with the Quran and Sunnah.This book says that Muhhamad ibn Abdul wahhab(rahimuhullah) was a british spy(naozubillah) but i dont talk about conspiracy theories tell me what in his literal or transmitted works goes against the Quran and the Sunnah and you will find out that he was indeed a reviver of the sunnah a mujtahid and also want to add that please read the books of people before accusing them…
December 12, 2009 at 5:35 pm
The book cannot be genuine. If the spy who supposedly wrote all that really belonged to the 18th century, then the style of writing would have been very different.
January 19, 2009 at 5:04 pm
you forgot to say that they consider all other Muslims heretics. Y
ou forgot to say that they require their women to cover fully (head to toe, only a little slit for the eyes so that they can see where they are being led by thier men).
And what about education , science etc??
And what is wrong with saints and Shiism?
December 16, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Niqab has nothing to do what so ever with Imam Abdul Wahab. All 4 madhabs consider Niqab to be obligatory, Hanafis do have provisions for exceptions.
February 16, 2009 at 6:30 pm
This must be a time-honored misunderstanding, as I learned about the conservative brand of Islam, Wahhabism, when I was lived in Saudi Arabia in the seventies, a teenage dependent of an American Aramco employee. I don’t dispute the facts as you have presented them, but I do think it is a shame that Saudi society is so closed that a foreigner can live there for years without really getting to know Saudi people at all. I just found this blog – looking forward to making up for lost time.
February 22, 2009 at 11:07 pm
Thats funny. I just happen to be studying this particular topic in Islam and its Empires.
Of course, your right on all of it!
anthrogeek10
February 22, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Hope said:
“you forgot to say that they consider all other Muslims heretics. Y
ou forgot to say that they require their women to cover fully (head to toe, only a little slit for the eyes so that they can see where they are being led by thier men).
And what about education , science etc??
And what is wrong with saints and Shiism?”
Actually,
“head to toe, only a little slit for the eyes so that they can see where they are being led by thier men).”
Covering is an Islamic practice. The Saudi women do not have to wear niqab (the covering for the face). they do however have to wear hijab and the abaya.
“And what about education , science etc??”
Women are not legally prevented from an education in Saudi Arabia.
“And what is wrong with saints and Shiism?”"
The veneration of saints IS outlawed in KSA because they think that it is a form of shirk (worshipping someone other than Allah). The issue between Shias and Sunnis is mainly political. There are other countries (Bahrain) in thr Gulf where it is practiced.
Educate yourself before spewing venom.
anthrogeek10
March 3, 2009 at 9:21 am
These DEOBANDI and WAHABI fanatics should be dealt with firmly.Root cause of current terrorrism are DEOBANDI and WAHABI fanaticts.
March 14, 2009 at 1:55 pm
The term wahhabi was first used by Muhammad bin Abdul Wahab’s brother Sulaiman in his book “Ash Shaw’iqul Ilahiyah firraddi all Wahabiyah”.
The term was also adopted by the Mufti of Mecca, Sheik Sayid Ahmad Zaini Dahlan who had a personal encounter with the wahhabi bandits when they conquered Mecca. His book entitled “Ad Durarus Saniyah firraddi alal Wahabiyah” has the term wahhabi.
The problem with this movement was its penchant for declaring those who do not follow them as kufur or non believers. They spend to much time in semantic, redefining what constitute bida’ah (innovation) and shirk (or polytheism), and label their opponents, including those who follow the imam madhab guilty of such practice. It was an effective way to identify an enemy and destroy them. The employment of mutawwa is a manifestation of these wahhabi philosophy.
Off course these movement regard the label wahhabi as derogatory because it is associated with its dark past.
Realising this pitfall of promoting distorted version of Islam King Abdullah has recently introduced reform which has now include the madhab scholars in its Ulema Council.
March 14, 2009 at 6:44 pm
The Wahabis, who call themselves Salafis, are a group who had
appeared in the last few centuries and hold beliefs contrary to the
Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaa’ah.
They try to pull the wool over our eyes by affiliating themselves
with the Salaf (Sahabah and Tabi’en) but in effect their beliefs and
practices are completely in contradictory with those of the Salaf.
The Wahabis are in essence Mujassimah (anthropomorphists-Those who
attribute
a body to Allah Ta’ala).
They attribute a hand, leg, face etc to Allah Ta’ala, while the
illustrious Ulama of the Ahlus sunnah wal Jama’ah hold fast to the
belief that Allah knows best the meaning of these words.
Similar is the case with all the sifat (qualities) etc in the Quran
ie. the Wahabis take them on there apparent meaning , claiming that
interpreting the Quran is not permissible, while we say that Allah
knows best what it means or at times we interpret it in a suitable
manner.
-The Wahabis reject the permissibility of using a deceased person as
a intermediary in dua, while we hold that it is permissible.
-The Wahabis reject the Ambiyaa being alive in their graves
- The Wahabis hold that Allah is really resting on His throne in the
sky, while we hold that this is from the Mutashabihaat.(Those unclear
statements hose meaning is only known to Allah).
- The Ulama of the Ahlus sunnah wal Jamaa’ah disagree with the
destruction of numerous blessed historical landmarks by the Wahabis.
-The Ulama of the Ahlus sunnah wal Jamaa’ah hold that taqleed of one
mazhab is necessary, while the Wahabis generally do not adhere to a
mazhab and claim that following one imam blindly is Bidah and shirk.
-There are dozens of other differences.
The Wahabis are vehement opponents of the Asharis and Maaturidis, who
constitute the Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jama’ah and are two groups whose
beliefs are correct. They also vehemently oppose tawassuf.
It is necessary for us to be on our guard against them as they are
very active propagators of their Baatil and false beliefs.
and Allah Ta’ala Knows Best
March 15, 2009 at 7:00 am
Dear Madam
Wahabi i.e Ibn Abdul Wahab Najidi is the enemy od Islam
Who belong to Najidi region of Arab. Prophet Muhammad Pease be upon him has informed muslims that from Najid
” The horn of evil(shaitaan),All major Fitnaas will be born there” (Sahee Bukharii,Sahee Muslim(Mutafaku Aliya))
If Ibn Wahaab was so saviour of Islam why Prophet said that.Down with Najidi(Ibn Wahaab)and also Saudi kingdom.
Mohammad Idrees Bhat
Baramulla ,Jammu AND kashmir
Pin-193101
November 28, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Brother due to your less knowledge about deen and the hatred towards the scholars of Ahlus sunnah wal jamaah you have quoted a hadith which you impose on Sheikh Muhhamad ibn Abdul Wahhab(rah) but if you would have a little bit knowledge about deen you would have come to truth.
Here is a refutation to the claim made by you:
Ibn Hajar Asqalani said after quoting the words of al-Khattaabee explaining the meaning of Qarn (horn):
“and others have said that the People of the East were disbelievers at that time and the Messenger of Allaah, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, informed us that the trials and tribulations would arise from that direction and it was as he said. And the first of the trials that arose, arose from the direction of the east and they were the reason for the splitting of the Muslim ranks, and this is what Satan loves and delights in. Likewise the innovations appeared from that direction.” [Fath al-Baaree 13/58 in commentary to the hadeeth of Najd]
Imam Nawawi makes a claim against the idea that the hadith is relating to Wahabis or the House of Saud. In his Sharh Saheeh Muslim 2/29 he said that it had to with Dajjal coming from the East. Furthermore, it is shown in Najd Qarnu ash-Shaytaan that there is 13 places that have been labeled as Najd depending a lot on one’s own location, and from Madina, Najd would be Iraq.
Ibn Hajr said: “al-Khattaabee said:
“the najd in the direction of the east, and for the one who is in Madeenah then his Najd would be the desert of Iraaq and it’s regions for this is to the east of the People of Madeenah. The basic meaning of Najd is that which is raised/elevated from the earth in contravention to al-Gawr for that is what is lower than it. Tihaamah [the coastal plain along the south-western and southern shores of the Arabian Peninsula] is entirely al-Gawr and Mecca is in Tihaamah.’[...] by this [saying of al-Khattaabee] the weakness of the saying of ad-Daawodee is understood that ‘Najd is in the direction of Iraaq’ [min Naahiya al-Iraaq] for he suggests that Najd is a specific place. This is not the case, rather everything that is elevated with respect to what adjoins it is called Najd and the lower area called Gawr.” [B]Fath al-Baaree 13/58-59
Other people have appealed to the definition of Najd, which is “elevated place”, argueing that the the others are merely interpreting it out of hatred to the Salafi movement.
Furthermore, the interpretation of Najd favored by many anti-Wahabi, anti-Saudis is in rejection to a number of ahadeeth which praise the inhabitants of Saudi as a beneficial people, is found in Sahih Bukhari:
“I have loved the people of the tribe of Banu Tamim, ever since I heard three things the Messenger of Allaah , sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said about them. I heard him saying, ‘these people (of the tribe of Banu Tamim) would stand firm against the Dajjaal.’ When the Saddaqat from that tribe came, the Messenger of Allaah , sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said, “these are the Saddaqat (charitable gifts) of our folk.” Aa’ishah had a slave girl from that tribe, and the Prophet , sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said to Aa’ishah, ‘manumit her as she is a descendant of Ismaa’eel, alayhis salaam.’”
ahadith 2543 and 4366 of al-Fath
Also from Musnad Ahmad ibn Hanbal:
“do not say of Bani Tameem anything but good, for indeed they are the severest of people in attacking the Dajjaal.”
Banu Tamim are the majority of people of the so-called Najd (Saudi Arabia). To label Najd as that area of Saudi Arabia would be in contradiction of the many hadeeth relating to Bani Tameem especially those in which they fight the Dajjal, who comes from the Najd that is to the East.
The Messenger of Allaah, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said,
“O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Shaam. O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Yemen.” The people said, “O Messenger of Allaah, and our Najd.” I think the third time the Prophet, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said, “There (in Najd) will occur earthquakes, trials and tribulations, and from their appears the Horn of Satan.”
Reported in al-Bukhaaree [Book of Trials, Chpt. 'The afflictions will come from the East' 9/166 no. 214 Eng. Trans]
A hadeeth which has some controversy surrounding it due to obvious sectarian reasons. A hadeeth which has been (deliberately) misunderstood by certain groups of people in order that they may spread their misguidance and deceive ignorant Muslims.
This because upon research and investigation and looking to the words of our early scholars we find that this hadeeth does not refer to the Najd that is famously known in Saudi today, but rather it refers to Iraaq.
About two years ago I read a book entirely devoted to this hadeeth entitled, “an-Najd Qarnu ash-Shaytaan” [I cannot remember the author as I do not have the book on me anymore.] I will quote in general from what I remember from this book, and refrain from mentioning precise quotes except from those references that I have on me.
Amongst the scholars that are mentioned who referred this hadeeth to Iraaq were: al-Khattaabee, al-Kirmaanee, al-Aynee, an-Nawawee, ibn Hajr and others. The reasons behind this are numerous and clear:
The Generality of the Hadeeth Pertaining to the Fitna Coming from the East.
Al-Bukhaaree includes this hadeeth in the chapter: “The affliction will appear from the East”
212) From the father of Saalim: The Prophet, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, stood up besides the pulpit (and pointed towards the east) and said: “Afflictions are there! Afflictions are there! From where appears the horn of Satan” or he said, “the horn of the Sun”
213) From ibn Umar that he said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah, sallallaahu alyahi wa sallam, saying while facing the east: “Indeed Afflictions are there, from where appears the Horn of Satan.”
214) The hadeeth of Najd under discussion.
Similar hadeeth can be found in Saheeh Muslim (volume 4 no.’s. 6938+). Hadeeth that give the same meaning can be found in Saheeh Muslim (volume 1 no.’s 83+)
That the Generality of the Early Trials and Tribulations arose from the East, many of them actually in Iraaq itself.
Ibn Hajr al-Asqalaanee said after quoting the words of al-Khattaabee explaining the meaning of Qarn (horn), “and others have said that the People of the East were disbelievers at that time and the Messenger of Allaah, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, informed us that the trials and tribulations would arise from that direction and it was as he said. And the first of the trials that arose, arose from the direction of the east and they were the reason for the splitting of the Muslim ranks, and this is what Satan loves and delights in. Likewise the innovations appeared from that direction.” [Fath al-Baaree 13/58 in commentary to the hadeeth of Najd]
Amongst the trials that arose in Iraaq and the east was the martyrdom of Alee, the martyrdom of the grandson of the Prophet, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, the first battle between the Muslims occurred in Iraaq, and many more.
Imaam Nawawee mentions that one of the greatest trials to appear from the East will be the appearance of the Dajjaal. [Sharh Saheeh Muslim 2/29]
From the innovations that appeared in the east and specifically Iraaq, was many of the early deviant sects amongst them the Qadariyyah (as the first hadeeth in Muslim shows), the Jahmiyyah and their offshoots etc…
That at the time of the Prophet, sallaahu alayhis wa sallaam, there were 13 places known as Najd [according to 'Najd Qarnu ash-Shaytaan'] depending on where one was. This because Najd linguistically means a raised/elevated land. Therefore the Arabs referred to lands that were elevated with respect to them as Najd. One of the most commonly referred to areas at that time as Najd was Iraaq.
The Najd for those people living in Madeenah in the direction of the East would be Iraaq.
Ibn Hajr said: “al-Khattaabee said: ‘the najd in the direction of the east, and for the one who is in Madeenah then his Najd would be the desert of Iraaq and it’s regions for this is to the east of the People of Madeenah. The basic meaning of Najd is that which is raised/elevated from the earth in contravention to al-Gawr for that is what is lower than it. Tihaamah [the coastal plain along the south-western and southern shores of the Arabian Peninsula] is entirely al-Gawr and Mecca is in Tihaamah.’”
Ibn Hajr continues, “by this [saying of al-Khattaabee] the weakness of the saying of ad-Daawodee is understood that ‘Najd is in the direction of Iraaq’ [min Naahiya al-Iraaq] for he suggests that Najd is a specific place. This is not the case, rather everything that is elevated with respect to what adjoins it is called Najd and the lower area called Gawr.” [Fath al-Baaree 13/58-59]
Al-Mubaarakfooree endorses these words in his commentary to Sunan at-Tirmidhee [B](10/314 no.4212)
The Hadeeth in Saheeh Muslim [4/1505 no.6943]
Saalim bin Abdullaah bin Umar said: O people of Iraaq, how strange is it that you ask about the minor sins but commit the major sins? [The killing of al-Husayn] I heard my father, Abdullaah bin Umar narrating that he heard the Messenger of Allaah, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, saying while pointing his hand to the east: “Indeed the turmoil would come from this side, from where appear the horns of Satan and you would strike the necks of one another…”
The Variations in Wording of the Hadeeth of Najd that Leave no Doubt Whatsoever as to what it refers to.
The hadeeth of ibn Umar Reported by Abu Nu’aym in al-Hilya (6/133), “O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Madeenah, and bestow your blessings on our Mecca, and bestow your blessings on our Shaam, and bestow your blessings on our Yemen, and bestow your blessings in our measuring (fee saa’inaa wa muddinaa).” A person said, ” O Messenger of Allaah and in our Iraaq” and so he turned away from him and said, “there will occur earthquakes, trials and tribulations and there will appear the horn of Satan.”
Shu’ayb al-Arna’ut declares it’s isnaad to be saheeh as in his footnotes to ‘Sharh as-Sunnah’ (14/206-207 fn. 2) and he too endorses the words of al-Khattaabee quoted above.
The hadeeth of ibn Umar reported in at-Tabaraanee in ‘al-Awsat’ that the Messenger of Allaah, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam prayed Fajr and then faced the people and said, “O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Madeenah, O Allaah bestow your blessings in our measuring, O Allaah bestow your blessings in our Shaam and our Yemen.” A person said, “And Iraaq O Messenger of Allaah?” He said, “from there arises the horn of Satan and the trials and tribulations would come like mounting waves.”
Ibn Hajr al-Haythamee says in his ‘Mujma az-Zawaa’id’ (3/305 – chapter ‘collection of du’aas made for (Madeenah)’): ‘its narrators are trustworthy and precise.’
[This hadeeth could possibly considered to be the same as b) above, but I have included it separately due to the slight difference in wording. Allaah knows best.]
The hadeeth of ibn Abbaas reported by at-Tabaraanee in ‘al-Kabeer’ that the Prophet, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, supplicated and said, “O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Shaam and Yemen.” A person from amongst the people said, “O Prophet of Allaah and Iraaq?” He said, “indeed there is the Horn of Satan, and the trials and tribulations will come like mounting waves, and indeed harshness/coarseness is in the east.”
Al-Haythamee says: “it’s narrators are trustworthy and precise.” (ibid.)
The Virtues of Bani Tameem
Bani Tameem constitute the majority of the inhabitants of the Najd that is in Saudi Arabia.
The hadeeth of Saheeh Bukhaaree reported by Abu Hurayra (RA): “I have loved the people of the tribe of Bani Tameem, ever since I heard three things the Messenger of Allaah , sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said about them. I heard him saying, ‘these people (of the tribe of Bani Tameem) would stand firm against the Dajjaal.’ When the Saddaqat from that tribe came, the Messenger of Allaah , sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said, “these are the Saddaqat (charitable gifts) of our folk.” Aa’ishah had a slave girl from that tribe, and the Prophet , sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said to Aa’ishah, ‘manumit her as she is a descendant of Ismaa’eel, alayhis salaam.’”
[Hadeeth no. 2543, 4366 of al-Fath]
Ibn Hajr al-Asqalaanee said, “this hadeeth also contains a clear mention of the excellence and superiority of Bani Tameem.” [Fath 5/217]
The hadeeth of Ikrimah from one of the Companions reported in the Musnad of Imaam Ahmad and in it occurs, “do not say of Bani Tameem anything but good, for indeed they are the severest of people in attacking the Dajjaal.”
Al-Haythamee says: “its narrators are those of the Saheeh.” [Mujma 10/48 chpt: What is reported concerning Bani Tameem]
It is not strange that Bani Tameem would be the most severe against the Dajjaal, because the tools required to combat him are none but a correct and firm belief and proper beneficial knowledge. Alhumdolillaah many of the scholars of Saudi are from the most noble and skilled scholars on the face of this earth today, firmly upon the way of our noble Messenger, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam.
This is what Allaah has allowed me to very quickly put together. And our Lord Most High Knows best.
March 17, 2009 at 3:54 am
Dear Viewers
I can provide numerous facts about Ibn Abdul Wahaab Najidi.
November 28, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Brother
Please i am waiting to see your numerous facts about the accusations against the Imam Muhhamed ibn Abdul Wahhab(rahimuhullah) and by the power of Allah subhana wa taala i will destroy and refute all claims of Baatil Against the Haq brought by the noble Imam…Inshallah
March 23, 2009 at 6:10 pm
The sister who wrote the above article clearly explains that there is no such term as WAHABI. But some of you are still ignorant and arrogant enough to use the word and bash your fellow muslims- subhanaAllah.
Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahaab was a reviver of the SUNNAH- Yes he was a scholar that was a salafi and his work will forever remain prominent for muslims- whether they are in Saudi or anywhere else in the world. If you have issues with your FELLOW muslims, you dont openly bash them online- where is your hikmah?
March 25, 2009 at 9:10 pm
I really thank Saudi Woman for giving us a brief about what Wahabism is. Prophet warned us that there would be 72 Fiqahs before Qiyammah and it seems we’re dividing each other by using derogatory terms. Living in Saudi Arabia, I know there is no such open pratice of Wahabism. Infact, Saudi society is much better and saved from Bidah. Thank You Saudi Woman!
August 13, 2009 at 1:15 pm
It seems you are a product of some Taliban/wahabi madrasa.
March 28, 2009 at 8:47 am
This is in reply to the write up posted by juggyguggy who dare not to reveal his identity. Without prejudice let me state honestly and I pray to Allah if I am wrong please show me the right path and if juggyguggy is wrong please show him the right path for there is only one sarate mustaqeem the right path which goes straight to jannah. I hubly suggest this man to Read and Research this will inshahallah help him to shed doubts from his mind. Please see my esponse below:
juggyguggy Says:
March 14, 2009 at 6:44 pm
The Wahabis, who call themselves Salafis, are a group who had
appeared in the last few centuries and hold beliefs contrary to the
Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaa’ah. This is absolutely not correct. In fact they are the group of people who are actually ahle sunnah wal jamah (ASWJ) since the time of prophet Mohammed saw. You are pseudo ASWJ. You are misguided and heretics. You are guided by some soofi somewhere some saint some where who did this who did that and so on. You never thought to refer to koran you never felt like refering to sahee hadees when ever in your whole life time even once referred to any hadees you referred with an intention to justify your aqeedah and deeds and never ever to seek truth.
They try to pull the wool over our eyes by affiliating themselves
with the Salaf (Sahabah and Tabi’en) but in effect their beliefs and
practices are completely in contradictory with those of the Salaf. Do you know the beliefs and practices of Sahaba RA and salfe saleheen. I think you know nothing.
The Wahabis are in essence Mujassimah (anthropomorphists-Those who
attribute
a body to Allah Ta’ala). This is an absolute lie. They believe in ayat Lais Kamislahi Shai. Nothing like him. Dont attribute such a big lie to them. How would you face Allah on the day of Judgement.
They attribute a hand, leg, face etc to Allah Ta’ala, while the
illustrious Ulama of the Ahlus sunnah wal Jama’ah hold fast to the
belief that Allah knows best the meaning of these words. Yes they believe this because it is mentioned in Quran it is mentioned in Hadees but they do not attribute kafiya. Like Imam Malik RA was once asked about Astawa. Imam Malik RA replied Astawa maloom kaifya majhool and asking on this subject is biddah. Similarly Legs, Hands, Wajd eyes are mentioned in Quran And hadees but we dont know anything about kaifya because allah knows best about kaifya it was not mentioned. They do not unncessary ask and discuss on this subject as SAHABA did when ever any ayat revealed on this subject they used to have firm belief on that but nevered asked about kafia. Whether it is Arrahman Ala Al Arsh Al astawa or the hadees that Prophet Mohammed SAW said that Dajjal has one eye and your rab has two. Hear it and believe it simple. Now this hadees will save you from the trap of dajjal when he will proclaim that he is the lord you will deny by remembering this hadees how just think about that.
Similar is the case with all the sifat (qualities) etc in the Quran
ie. the Wahabis take them on there apparent meaning , claiming that
interpreting the Quran is not permissible, while we say that Allah
knows best what it means or at times we interpret it in a suitable Not in meaning but in kaifya Allah knows best.
manner.
-The Wahabis reject the permissibility of using a deceased person as
a intermediary in dua, while we hold that it is permissible.
So does sahaba no example if you have please give authentic reference.
-The Wahabis reject the Ambiyaa being alive in their graves. Impossible why he was buried then you stupid nonsence.
- The Wahabis hold that Allah is really resting on His throne in the
sky, while we hold that this is from the Mutashabihaat.(Those unclear
statements hose meaning is only known to Allah). Replied already
- The Ulama of the Ahlus sunnah wal Jamaa’ah disagree with the
destruction of numerous blessed historical landmarks by the Wahabis. A place of Shirk see for urself in AJMER in INDIA and similar place around the world.
-The Ulama of the Ahlus sunnah wal Jamaa’ah hold that taqleed of one
mazhab is necessary, while the Wahabis generally do not adhere to a
mazhab and claim that following one imam blindly is Bidah and shirk. Sahaba never did it this is another proof that salafees are true representative of sahabas RA
-There are dozens of other differences.
The Wahabis are vehement opponents of the Asharis and Maaturidis, who
constitute the Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jama’ah and are two groups whose
beliefs are correct. They also vehemently oppose tawassuf. Asharis and Maaturidis are heretics their belief run counter with Quran and Hadees.
It is necessary for us to be on our guard against them as they are
very active propagators of their Baatil and false beliefs. It is necessary for us to befriend with them and learn from them you idiot.
and Allah Ta’ala Knows Best
November 21, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Mr Faran…You are one among the few idiots and loony characters who misinterpret Islam and give it a bad name !!!
Islam can do well without dumb heads like you !!!
April 13, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Im a Wahabi
August 13, 2009 at 1:17 pm
You will go hell with abdul wahab Najdi
May 24, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Assalam Alaikum,
I want to know why Muslims can’t buy land in Saudi Arab ?
It is something which is against the shariah and it can be counted as Bid’ah , something Prophet Muhammad(s.a.w) never preached or did he?
and since 1920 when Saud family got hold of Arab why it is that they never asked muslim Ummah to re-establish Khilafah and rather started pallying with America ?
Thanks………Syed Abdul Aziz.
July 6, 2009 at 4:11 am
Those who follow Sheikh Muhammed Ibn Abdul-Wahhab is a wahabi and those who follow Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal is a Hanbali and so on. There are four renowned mazhab agreed by ijma’ ‘ulama and wahabi is not included.
Even arabs in Saudi as sister mentioned during Ibn Wahhab’s time are far away from islam, what about the rest of muslims whose countries have been colonised and westernised? There were many renowned scholars in Makkah during Ibn Wahhab’s time. What happened to them? Because they are not arabs?
July 22, 2009 at 12:25 am
Dear Saudi woman
since we are talking here about tribes.. would you happen to have any link that explains the division of tribes and the subcategories that exist in the present? How can I know from what tribe a person is nowadays?
I have a friend with all these last names:
Almatroud, Alsahali and Saad and I would like to know to which tribe he belongs . Also I would like to know if this is a a traditional tribe or what is this tribe famous for.
Thank you very much for all your wonderful information.
Salam!
July 26, 2009 at 9:36 am
Wahabis are Najdis whom beloved prophet predicted as fitna.
following link illustrates this fact.
August 13, 2009 at 2:00 pm
This is a great post, and a much needed clarification for all, as to what wahabi, salafi, and hanbali mean. I hope you have occasion to publish the information widely, both in the academic and lay presses.
October 15, 2009 at 11:31 pm
Great blog, shame I just fell upon it.
I was wondering if you know that the first to coin the “wahabi” term is actually Sulaiman bin Abdulwahab, his brother and a fellow jurist, in his treaties: “الصواعق الالهية في الرد على الوهابية”
Also, it is historically and terminologically inaccurate to state that by the late 19th century there has been polytheism or paganism in Arabia. It is true, however, that by Abdulwahab’s time in Arabia the practice of saintship and Karamat was rampant. Though as many jurists have debated this does not attain a level of “shirk” or anti-taoheed as long as the belief is that the saint will only bring you closer to God because of his/her Karamat, but the saint is not God.
Keep up the good work, you have a new fan
October 16, 2009 at 3:47 pm
What the hell is american army doing in the Saudi Arabi
November 27, 2009 at 5:35 am
My Questions-
Have You studied Saudi funded Imams and Madarsas spreading in other muslim countries holds totally separated character.They are different from all sunni Muslims .In Every Muslim country You will found that Sunni scholars are against this salafi/wahabi Movement.
These Salafi/wahabi scholars considers other Sunnis as in need of making Salafis and whenever find chances to convert people they converts them to Wahabism?Is Wahabism Only Ideology in Islam?
Do You know that according to Hadith -Majority of Muslims will never Unite on error.They are unite against these teachings of Wahabism/salafism.
Have You Studies Hambalis of other counries are different from Saudi Hambalis and they are united with other three means Hanafis/Shafai/Malikis of any country in terms of Aqaid.
Why thousands of AhleSunnah scholars in the Past and in Present regarded the teachings of Muhahammad bin abdulwahab as heretical?
Have You read his teachings even his brother and father opposed his extreme teachings which were against Islam?
Have You read How the Saudi state was established?Whole Muslim ummah is not blind it was created by the direct help of britain.?
Why Saudi are soft towards Kafirs like britain and U.S and Harsh on Poor Muslims?
Dont you know that Adultery and Illicit relationship with girls of Poor Muslim Countreis is rampant in Your state and Saudi Muftis and Mutawwa is totally blind to these Practices ?
The World Media is not alone in describing this Movement as Innovation and Extreme rather most muslims are aware about this movement.
Just Search Internet and read Islam in Various countries.
Why Saudi family changed the name of Hijaz to SaudiArabia?Was this Islamic or love of Prophet sallahoalihiwassalam.
Luxurious Saudi kings added their Personal name to a country of Rasulallah sallahoalihiwassalam.
Face it they also spread their Personal understanding of Islam in the land of Rasulallah sallahoalihiwassalam.
The matter is crystal clear they are a new firqa and they are Gumrah. may allah Protect the Imaan of Muslims from heretical movements running in the name of Islam.
You have to answer these Questions.
November 28, 2009 at 1:21 am
Don’t forget that it is not allowed to impose or force Islam on anyone, because if you do, it becomes oppression. And Allah urges you to fight oppression. It is permitted to invite to Islam. The best of believers are those who have chosen Islam by themselves.
Similarly, this applies to the hijab as well. If you mistrust me, look up the noble Quran. There is no compulsion in religion!
November 28, 2009 at 9:15 am
Dear Brothers and sisters in Islam,
As-salaam-u-aalaikum.
Allah,The Glorious states in the Holy Qur’an:
{Invite (mankind, O Muhammad [salAllahu 'alayhi wa sallam]) to the way of your Lord (i.e. Islam) with wisdom (i.e. with the Divine Revelation and the Qur’an) and fair preaching, and argue with them in a way that is better. Truly, your Lord knows best who has gone astray from His path, and He is the Best Knower of those who are guided.}[an-Nahl 16:125]
Well after reading the blog with all the comments from above to below,the sister from Saudi Arab tries to inform us that there is no such sect as ‘Wahabis’ and they are actually what Allah and his Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) wanted us muslims to be.
But unfortunately most of the commentators started ‘BLINDLY’ attacking them UNLIKE THAT ORDERED TO US BY ALLAH IN THE VERSE ABOVE FROM THE HOLY QURAN (16:125) AS HE SAID TO ARGUE IN THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY AND IT IS ALLAH ALONE WHO KNOWS THE BEST THAT WHOS ON THE RIGHT PATH AND WHO’S NOT BUT IS INDEED LED ASTRAY.
Let us start with a Sahih Hadees From our Beloved Prophet (peace be upon him):
The Prophet said, “AND THIS UMMAH WILL SPLIT INTO 73 SECTS, ALL OF THEM IN THE HELLFIRE EXCEPT ONE.” The companions said, which one is this. The Messenger of Allah replied ” THEY ARE THOSE WHO ARE UPON THAT WHICH I AND MY COMPANIONS ARE UPON TODAY”.
So what to all of you understand from above.only and only 1 sect out of the 73 among us will be accepted by Allah,the most wise. THIS SHOWS US THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE AROUND US WHO SAY THEY FOLLOW ISLAM ,THEIR ISLAM WONT BE ACCEPTED BY ALLAH ,THE MOST MERCIFUL ON THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT,AS OUT OF 73, 72 WILL BE IN HELLFIRE.SO THIS SHOWS US HOW IMPORTANT IS IT FOR US TO FIND WHICH SECT IS THIS ? ISNT IT?WHICH SECT IS THIS THAT THE HOLY PROPHET REFERRED TO,CAUSE EVERYONE OF US AT LAST WANT TO BE WHAT OUR BELOVED PROPHET WANTED US TO BE ,HIS TRUE FOLLOWERS AND NONE OF US WANT TO AT LAST ,LAND IN HELL-FIRE OBVIOUSLY.
But most of you above attack ‘WAHABIS’ as kaffirs
on your own beliefs when ALLAH HIMSELF SAID IN THE HOLY QURAN THAT TrulyHE knows best who has gone astray from His path, and He is the Best Knower of those who are guided. (REFER 16:125 ABOVE).
EVEN IF YOU PEOPLE CONSIDER AS WAHABIS AS KAAFIRS OR OUTSIDERS,THEN EVEN ALMOST ALL OF YOU WHO ARE FROM DIFFERENT SECTS TRYING TO REFUTE ‘WAHABIS’ WILL ALSO LAND IN HELL-FIRE AS (THE HADITH ABOVE WHICH SUGGESTS 72 OUT OF 73 WILL END IN HELL-FIRE).
SO AT THE FIRST PLACE WE HAVE TO FIND THE RIGHT PATH ,THAT 1 SECT WHICH ALLAH WILL FORGIVE ON THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT TO SAVE OURSELVES FROM HELL-FIRE AND AT THE SAME TIME SPREAD THIS WORD OF TRUTH TO OTHER FELLOW BROTHERS AND SISTERS (DAWAH) TO PROTECT THEM ALSO FROM THE HELL-FIRE.
NOW HOW TO FIND THIS RIGHT PATH ????
WE BELIEVE THAT THE LAST PROPHET OF ISLAM (PEACE BE UPON HIM) WITH THE GRACE OF ALLAH,THE ALMIGHTY HAD ALREADY PROVIDED THE WHOLE MANKIND WITH THE RIGHT & COMPLETE PATH TO FOLLOW .
HE PEACE BE UPON HIM WHEN MENTIONED ABOUT THE 72 OUT OF 73 GOING TO HELL-FIRE,THE COMPANIONS RADHIALLAHU-ANHU ASKED HIM THAT WHO ARE THE ONES ,The Messenger of Allah replied ” THEY ARE THOSE WHO ARE UPON THAT WHICH I AND MY COMPANIONS ARE UPON TODAY”(REFER TO THE HADITH ABOVE)
THUS THE HOLY PROPHET NOT ONLY WARNED HIS UMMAH ABOUT THE FATE OF THE 72 SECTS OF HIS UMMAH BUT HE ALSO INFORMED US THAT WHO ARE THOSE WHICH WILL BE SAVED FROM THE HELL-FIRE,i.e., which are those who are on the right path.
IN OTHER WORDS ,THE HOLY PROPHET SAID THAT ONLY AND ONLY THOSE WHO WILL FOLLOW THE PROPHET AND HIS COMPANIONS WILL BE ON THE RIGHT PATH AND ONLY THEY OUT OF THE 73 SECTS WILL BE GUARANTEED A PLACE IN THE PARADISE.
TO ANALYSE FURTHER :
The Prophet (S) said, Adhere very closely to my Sunnah and the Sunnah of the rightly guided successors after me; bite on to it with your molar teeth, and beware of the newly invented matters. [Authentic; recorded by Abu Dawud and at-Tirmidthi.]
WHO ARE THE “SALAF?”.
As-Salaf us-Salih (or briefly: the Salaf) refers to the first and best three generations of Muslims. They are the Companions (Sahabah) of the Prophet (S), their immediate followers (Tabiun), and the followers of the Tabi’in. These were praised by the Prophet (s): The best of people is my generation, then those who come after them, then those who come after them [Bukhari and Muslim]. The term Salaf applies also to the Scholars of Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jama’ah after the first three blessed generations who followed their way in belief and practices.
WHO ARE THE “SALAFIS?”
The description “Salafi” applies to one who truly attaches himself to the Salaf. This attachment is not to an arbitrary single person or group of people. It is an attachment to that which will never err – to the guidance of Muhammad (S), his Sahabai, and their true followers. Likewise, Salafiyyah (the Salafi Da’wah) is not blind following of any particular Shaikh or Imam. It is adherence to the Qur’an and Sunnah as understood and practiced collectively by as-Salaf as-Salih. A true Salafi values Tawhid, singling out Allah in all acts of worship: in supplication, in seeking aid, in seeking refuge in times of ease and hardship, in sacrifice, in making vows, in fearing and hoping and total reliance, and so on. A true Salafi actively seeks to remove shirk (polytheism) with all his capacity. He knows that victory is not possible without true Tawhid, and that shirk cannot be fought with the likes of it (i.e., with another form of shirk). A true Salafi adheres to the Sunnah of the Prophet (S) and of his companions after him.
A true Salafi is not of the Khawarij who consider most Muslims to be kafirs (disbelievers) because of committing sins. He is not of the Shiah who revile the Sahabah, who claim that the Qur’an has been altered, who reject the authentic Sunnah, and who worship the Prophet’s Family. He is not of the Qadariyyah who deny qadar (the Divine Decree). He is not of the murjiah who claim that iman is only words without deeds. He is not of the Mu’attilah who deny Allah’s Attributes. He is not of the Sufis who worship graves and claim Divine incarnation. He is not of the Muqallidun who insist that every Muslim should adhere to the Madth’hab (understanding) of a particular imam or shaikh, even when that madth’hab conflicts with the clear texts of the Qur’an or authentic Sunnah.
Thus the true Salafs are Ahl us-Sunnati wal-Jamaah. They are at-Ta’ifat ul-Mansurah (the Aided, Victorious Group) and al-Firqat un-Najiyah (the Saved Party) which have been described in several hadiths. The Messenger (S) said: A group from my Ummah (nation or community) will always be aided with victory as they continue to persevere upon the Truth; they will not be harmed by those who abandon them or those who oppose them. [Recorded by Muslim]. And he (S) said: This Ummah will split into seventy three parties, all of which will go to Hell – except for one party: the one which will follow the same path as what I and my companions are following today. [Authentic; recorded by Abu Dawud, at-Tirmidthi, and others]. In one report he (S) described this Saved Party as: … except for one party, which is the Jama’ah.
Among these scholars are (the number following the name is the Hijri year of death): Abu Hanifah (150), al-Awzai (157), ath-Thawn (161), al-Laith bin Sad (175), Malik bin Anas (179). Abdullah bin al-Mubarak (181), Sufyan bin ‘Uyainah (198), ash-Shafi’i (204), Is’haq (238), Ahmad bin Hanbal (241), al-Bukhari (256), Muslim (261), Abu Dawud (275), Ibn Taymiyyah (728), adth-Dthahabi (748), Ibn ul-Qayyim (751), Ibn Kathir (774), Muhammad bin ‘Abdil Wahhab (1206) and his many students, and, in our time: ‘Abd ul-’Aziz bin Baz, Muhammad Nasir ud-Din al-Albani and others.
Upon comprehending this, a Muslim has no option but to be salafi. In doing so he attaches himself to that group which has been guaranteed success, victory, salvation and safety from the Fire.
The Salafi Da’wah stands upon the principles of Tawhid and Tazkiyah.
TAWHID:
Tawhid means to accept and believe in the oneness of Allah (T) and in the uniqueness of His Message. It means to worship Allah (T) alone, and to worship Him in accordance with His legislation.
It is unfortunate that true adherence to the Way of the Prophet (S) has weakened in the Ummah and true love for him has all but disappeared because of:
- Abandoning his Sunnah and removing it from our daily lives, belittling it, and developing an attitude of pride and arrogance toward it.
- The spread of numerous unsubstantiated and fabricated hadiths among Muslims.
- The spread of many bid’ahs (innovations) among Muslims.
- Blind following of a specific madth’hab (Taqlid).
- Delivering Islamic verdicts without knowledge or evidence.
- Ceasing to implement the Shari’ah (Islamic laws) throughout the lands of Islam and replacing it by the ways and laws of the Kuffar (disbelievers).
TAZKIYAH: On the other hand, means to be purified or to purify oneself by adhering to Allah’s commands. In its best form, it would be to worship Him with complete surrender, submission, and devotion. This is a great favor that Allah (T) bestowed on this Ummah.
November 28, 2009 at 9:27 am
MISCONCEPTIONS about the Salafi Da’wah:
There following are is a number of misconceptions about the Salafi Da’wah:
Calling as-Salafiyyah a “movement” or “movements.” It should be clear to all that the Salafi Da’wah is Islam, no more and no less. It is the True Islam with all its teachings and implications. Anyone who talks about it as an outsider might as well talk about Islam as an outsider! It is the teachings of the Qur’an and the authentic Sunnah in the light of practices and understanding of as-Salaf: A “movement” is meant to indicate something temporal or reactionary, whereas the Salafi Da’wah is the only true and constant and blessed Da wah of the prophets.
Thinking or claiming that the Salafs are followers of a fifth madth’hab which is attributed to Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahab ,Ibn Taymiyyah or Ibn Baz or al-Albani. This is a grave misconception. As stated above, the Salaf sources are the Qur an, the Sunnah, and the methodology of as-Salaf: If these scholars rely in their ijtihad on these sources then we take what they say, not because they said it, rather because Allah or His Messenger said it or called to it directly or indirectly through the known channels of ijtihad. The same applies to all scholars throughout the ages. We take from them all what conforms with the Qur’an and the Sunnah and we reject what does not.
The Salaf Da’wah is against all forms of ‘asabiyyah and hizbiyyah (baseless allegiance for parties, factions, races, nations, etc). The only allowed allegiance is to Allah and His Messenger and to what stems from it. The leader of all Salafis is Muhammad (S). Anyone else will be respected and obeyed in as much as he obeys Allah and His Messenger. Claiming that the Salafi Da’wah calls its followers to be disorganized and chaotic in their behavior is another misconception. Work has to be organized and orderly, as was taught by the Messenger (S) on many occasions, but it should avoid the hizbiyyah disease described above.
The Salafi Da’wah puts a strong emphasis on tarbiyah (education and cultivation). This is not a mere academic educational process; rather, it is a complete process which is meant to raise committed Muslims who understand their Din and who practice it in the best possible way.
November 28, 2009 at 11:52 am
Above,Alhamdulillah i have already provided a brief introduction to who the ‘Salfees’ /Ahl-e-Hadees/Ahl us-Sunnati wal-Jamaah/Wahabis are.These above are the different references to the SALFEES ,The term “Wahhabi” (Wahhābīya) was first used by opponents of ibn Abdul Wahhab.It is considered derogatory by the SALFEES,as their opponents by calling them WAHABIS want to SHOW THAT THEY ARE THE FOLLOWERS OF MUHAMMAD IBN ABDUL WAHAB (RAHIMULLAH) and not of the HOLY PROPHET(PEACE BE UPON HIM)..THIS IS NOT RIGHT ,EVEN THOUGH THEY CONSIDER MUHAMMAD IBN ABDUL WAHAB AS ONE OF THEIR SALAF & SCHOLARS JUST LIKE OTHER SCHOLARS LIKE Abu Hanifah (150), al-Awzai (157), ath-Thawn (161), al-Laith bin Sad (175), Malik bin Anas (179). Abdullah bin al-Mubarak (181), Sufyan bin ‘Uyainah (198), ash-Shafi’i (204), Is’haq (238), Ahmad bin Hanbal (241), al-Bukhari (256), Muslim (261), Abu Dawud (275), Ibn Taymiyyah (728), adth-Dthahabi (748), Ibn ul-Qayyim (751), Ibn Kathir (774); As stated above, the Salaf sources are the Qur an, the Sunnah, and the methodology of as-Salaf: If these scholars rely in their ijtihad on these sources then we take what they say, not because they said it, rather because Allah or His Messenger said it or called to it directly or indirectly through the known channels of ijtihad. The same applies to all scholars throughout the ages. We take from them all what conforms with the Qur’an and the Sunnah and we reject what does NOT.
WHILE MOST OF YOU WROTE ABOVE WATEVER YOU LIKED,WHAT EVER YOU DESIRED,MY SINCERE ADVISE TO ALL OF YOU IS TO WHEN MAKING A POINT,PROVE WITH THE HELP OF THE QU’RAN AND SAHEEH HADITH,NOT WAT YOU THINK ,NOT WHAT YOU LISTEN FROM OTHERS ,NOT WHAT YOU READ FROM BOOKS,SITES FILLED WITH LIES.
ABOVE ONE BROTHER MUHAMMAD IDREES BHAT,FROM BARAMULLA,KASHMIR HAS SAID THAT HE WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH BOOKS AGAINST MUHAMMAD IBN ABDUL WAHAB.
WELL THAN HE CAN ALSO GET BOOKS AGAINST ISLAM,AGAINST OUR HOLY PROPHET (NAUZUBILLAH).DOES THAT MEAN THAT …….. NAUZUBILLAH. IF YOU TALK,TALK QURAN AND SUNNAH, DONT SHOW ME FALSE BOOKS WITH LIES…I EXACTLY KNOW WHAT BOOKS YOU READ,THESE BOOKS OF LIE AND FALSEHOOD COMING FROM SO CALLED HANAFI SCHOOLS(DEOBAND,BAREVLI,TABLEEGHI IN INDIA ) WONT PROVE ANYTHING..THEN I CAN SHOW YOU MORE AGAINST WHAT ALL OF YOU FOLLOW AND ALHAMDULILLAH THATS NOT LIES LIKE WHAT YOU SHOW..CAUSE WE ARE THE ONLY TRUE FOLLOWERS OF QURAN,SUNNAH,………….AND THE SALAF WHICH INCLUDE IMAM ABU HANIFA,IMAM MAALIKI,IMAM SHAFIEE,IMAM AHMAD IBN HANBAL ONLY WHICH IS RIGHT AND IN LINE WITH THE QUR’AN AND THE HADITH AND REJECT WHAT GOES AGAINST IT.
WE ARENT LIKE YOU,WHO DO TAQLID(BLIND-FOLLOWING) OF ONLY ONE MADHAB AND REJECT OTHERS…EVEN IF WE SHOW YOU THAT THE RULING OF YOUR MADHAB IS AGAINST THE SUNNAH,YOU INSTEAD OF FOLLOWING THE SUNNAH STILL BLINDLY FOLLOW YOUR OWN MADHAB.
i ASK YOU:
1) ON WHAT BASIS YOU CLING TO ONE IMAM AND REJECT OTHERS,WHY ONLY ONE,WHY NOT ALL,WHY NOT SOME OTHER..DO YOU THINK THAT NAUZUBILLAH OTHERS ARE WRONG???
2) THEY SAY THAT TAQLID OF ONE MADHAB IS NECESSARY AND THUS CALL SALFEES KAAFIRS….
I ASK ON WHAT BASIS :
A) SHOW ME WHERE IN THE QURAN AND SAHEEH HADITH IS THERE WRITTEN THAT TAQLID OF ONE MADHAB IS NECESSARY???DID THE PROPHET OF ISLAM SPECIFICALLY NAME IMAM ABU HANIFA,OR IMAM AHMED IBN HANBAL(RAHIMULLAH) OR SOME OTHER TO FOLLOW???DID THE HOLY PROPHET TELL US TO FOLLOW ANY ONE SCHOOL AND THAT TOO BLINDLY???
I OPENLY CHALLENGE ALL OF YOU TO SHOW ME ONE PROOF ..
B) THE COMPANIONS OF THE HOLY PROPHET,THE SAHABAAS ,LIKE ABU–BAKR,UMAR IBN AL-KHATTAB,UTHMAN,ALI ETC ,ETC,ABU-HURAIRAH(ALLAH BE PLEASED WITH ALL OF THEM),WHAT WAS THEIR MADHAB?? WAHT WAS THEIR MADHAB??WHERE THEY HANFEES,HANBLEES,MALIKEES,SHAFEES…OR WHAT??THEY WERE NONE…THEY WERE THE SALAFS…THEY WERE THE FOLLOWERS OF THE HOLY PROPHET (PEACE BE UPON HIM) ,THEY REFERRED TO QURAN AND THE SUNNAH….THAT TIME NO SCHOOL OF FIQH OR LAW WAS ESTABLISHED……SO NAUZIBILLAH NONE OF THEM ARE COMPLETE MUSLIMS LIKE YOU FOLLOWERS WHO DO TAQLID OF A PARTICULAR MADHAB?? NAUZUBILLAH, IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY??
3) ALSO ASK ME HOW AT THE FIRST PLACE YOU DO TAQLID OR BLIND FOLLOWING OF A PARTICULAR MADHAB???
A) HOW COME YOU PEOPLE ARE SO SURE THAT WHATEVER YOU READ FROM THE BOOKS,FROM THE WORKS,AND FROM THE SO CALLED HANAFI/SHAFEE ETC SCHOOLS ARE THE RESPECTIVE WORKS OF THE IMAMS(RAHIMULLAH)….CANT THEY BE CORUPPTED?? EVEN ALLAHS BOOKS THROUGH THE TIMES INCLUDING THE TOWRAH AND THE BIBLE GOT CORUPPTED…WHY CANT THEIRS???
MANY OF THE THINGS COMING FROM THESE SO CALLED LAW SCHOOLS HAVE MATERIALS CORRUPTED AND ALL THAT CORUPTION ATTRIBUTED TO THE POOR IMAMS THEMSELVES.
PROOF: WHY MANY OR FOR THAT MATTER MOST OF THEIR RULINGS ARE NOT INLINE WITH THE SUNNAH???
WE HAVE THE BELIEF THAT ALL THESE FALSE RULINGS ARE NOT THE WORKS OF THE PIOUS IMAMS(RAHIMULLAH),BUT ALL THESE HAVE BEEN FALSELY ATTRIBUTED TO THEM JUST LIKE BIBLE WAS CORRUPTED AND FALSELY ATTRIBUTED TO ALLAH.WE STRONGLY BELIEVE AS THEY ARE THE SALAFS,THEY WOULD NEVER BE WRONG IN THEIR RULINGS(NAUZUBILLAH) ,BUT THESE ARE THE WORKS OF THE CURRENT GENERATION FALSE ULEMAS,MUFTIS…ETC..
B) ALSO NONE OF YOU ARE THE REAL FOLLOWERS OF IMAM ABU HANIFA,OR IMAM MALIKEE.SHAFEE,OR IMAM AHMAD IBN HANBAL…FOR EACH ONE OF THEM SAID NONE SHOULD FOLLOW THEM BLINDLY.THEY SPECIFICALLY SAID THAT IF THEIR WORKS GOES AGAINST THE HADITH,REJECT IT AND ACCEPT WHAT THE HADEES SAYS.THIS SHOWS THAT THEY THEMSELVES DIDNT RULE OUT THAT EVEN THEY COULD HAVE COMMITED MISTAKES AS AFTER ALL THEY ALSO WERE HUMAN BEINGS .
C) ALSO ALL THESE IMAMS(MAY ALLAHS MERCY BE UPON THEM) HAD COME BEFORE THE COMPILATION OF THE HADITH HAD STARTED. FOR eg, IMAM BUKHARI,IMAM MUSLIM,IMAM TRIMIDEE etc started compilation of the hadiths much later.
SO,THERE WAS ALWAYS THE POSSIBILITY THAT NOT ALL THE HADITH WOULD HAVE REACHED THEM,AND EVEN SOME WHICH WOULD HAVE REACHED AT THAT TIME WOULD HAVE BEEN DAEF OR EVEN MAWDOO.
FOR eg., of the four ,three used to do Raf’ al yadyn in their prayers.the followers of the fourth madhab,here the hanfis when shown the saheh hadith ,shouldnt they follow the hadith?THEY DONT.THEY DO THE BLIND FOLLOWING OF IMAM ABU-HANIFA(RAHIMULLAH),ARGUING AND SUPPORTING WITH A HADITH WHICH HAD ALREADY BEEN CLASSIFIED DAEEF.
SO,NOW ARE THEY REALLY HANFIS???DO THEY REALLY FOLOW IMAM ABU HANIFA WHO HIMSELF HAD SAID THAT WHATEVER WAS SAHIH WAS ONLY HIS MADHAB.,HE HIMSELF HAD SAID US NOT TO BLINDLY FOLLOW HIM,BUT IF SOMETHING OF HIS WORK,IF ANY IS AGAINST THE HADITH,SIMPLY REJECT IT AND FOLLOW THE HADITH.DO THE SO CALLED HANFIS OR THE THE BLIND-FOLLOWERS OF OTHER MADHAB DO THIS?? NO.THEY ONLY DO TAQLID,AND ARGUE.
SALFEES:
Now how do you consider the Salfees wrong if they follow the way prescribed by the beloved PROPHET MUHAMMAD (PEACE B UPON HIM) TO FOLLOW HIM AND HIS THREE PIOUS GENERATIONS,
HOW ARE THEY WRONG IF THEY DONT ASSOCIATE BLINDLY WITH ANY PARTICULAR MADHAB,JUST LIKE THE SAHABAS WERENT BELONGING TO ANY MADHAB,
HOW ARE THEY WRONG IF THEY TRULY FOLLOW THE SAYINGS OF THE 4 PIOUS IMAMS TRULY BY FOLLOWING ONLY WHAT IS INLINE WITH THE HADITH AND REJECTING THE REST???ALTHOUGH WE BELIEVE THAT NONE OF THE IMAMS WOULD HAVE GOT SO MUCH VARIATIONS IN THEIR OPINIONS(MINOR VARIATIONS CAN BE POSSIBLE),THE VARIATIONS AND THE DIFFERENCES FROM THE HADITH ARE DUE TO THE CORRUPTION BY THE FOLLOWING GENERATION AND FALSELY ATTRIBUTING TO THEM; ALSO DUE TO THE DAEEF HADITH AVAILABLE AT THAT TIME; AND DUE TO NON COMPILATION OF THE HADITHS AT THAT TIME.
December 1, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Indiscriminate murder and suicide are two paths that leads to hellfire. Sadly enough such people who do those things are called “martyrs” and are celebrated as heroes. Indiscriminated murder is not the same as retribution and suicide is not the same as dying without wanting to.
These people who do those things want a way to enter paradise in less than minute. The true path however is one of struggle against evil that may last a whole lifetime. 120 years of struggle is not the same as pushing a button and hope for the best. All of those suicide bombers on resurrection day will find out that they opposed Allahs laws. Thus they will enter hell.
To all Muslim women who are beaten by their houseband, they have the right to strike back, because women have an obligation to follow the law of retribution also.
Thanks for this Muslim forum.
December 2, 2009 at 5:08 pm
SALAFI “Wahabis” on the issue of Suicide Bombing:: PLEASE READ IT CAREFULLY
Sheikh Dr. Saleh Bin Fowzan Al-Fowzan, member of the Board of Senior Ulema and the Permanent Committee for Islamic Research and Verdicts (Ifta) and a leading scholar of Ahlus sunnah wal Jamaat has described those who claim to be engaging in jihad for the sake of Allah by killing themselves as committing suicide are Mujahideen for the sake of Satan.
Al-Fowzan said: Those who have fallen into this Fitnah (trial or temptation) have not asked the religious scholars (Ulema), nor have they gained religious knowledge from them. Instead they isolated themselves from other Muslims and turned to people considered human tyrants who brainwashed them, and so they deviated from the right path followed by the majority. They consider other Muslims to be infidels, in what is known as Takfir. They kill them, blow up buildings and other facilities. They kill the young and old, male and female, and Muslim and Al-Muýahid, Al-Dhimmi and Al-Mustaýman, due to this deviant belief. These are the consequences for whoever inclines towards evildoers.
Al-Fowzan quoted the Prophet (peace be upon him) on the seditions and trials (Fitan) of the late eras. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said that there would be callers at the gates of Hellfire and whoever obeyed them would be thrown into Hellfire.
Sheikh Al-Fowzan said that this was reality now.
Everybody rejoices at their misfortune and hates them for their deeds, even non-Muslims, let alone Muslims,Sheikh Fowzan said. Nobody is satisfied with their deeds except those who are like them. This is a great trial (Fitnah) and a Muslim should be alert and contemplate it. He should not be hasty, and should ask religious scholars and pray to Allah for guidance.
He should not trust people without knowing their real intentions and make sure they are upright, even though they may appear to be upright, righteous and showing zeal and concern for Islam. On the other hand, whoever seems to be following the right path and is doing good deeds but is an unknown person, we must neither be hasty in our judgment about him nor should we trust him unless we know the truth about him, and know his true conduct and past.
Without foresight and without consulting the learned, deviant groups fell into the abyss due to hasty judgments on people, ignorance, mixing with evil people, trusting them and distancing themselves from Muslims and their Ulema. They have dropped out of schools and stayed away from the Ulema and their families and homes. Muslim youth should learn lessons from what has happened to these people.
Successful is he who learns a lesson from others misdeeds. We must learn lessons from these events, never go beyond the limits, abide by the Muslim consensus and obey the ruler.
December 2, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Another Great Scholar of this Era on suicide Bombings.
Shaykh al-Albaanee on the Islamic Ruling on Suicide Bombings:
Suicide attacks in the present time now,, all of
them are not legislated (in the Sharee’ah), and all of them are unlawful, and they may be from those types (of suicide) on account of which its perpetrator will remain in the Fire forever….
Now my dear brothers and sisters the best to know about the Islam is to gain knowledge from the true scholars of Ahlus sunnat wal jamaa’h.